A: Lets dispel with Rey beat Kylo easily, if you actually watch the film you will see a consistency with Rey, everything she tries, she fails at the first time. Piloting the falcon, nosedived it, took out a gate taking off(the easiest part of flying) Handling a blaster, letting the rathtars out, mindtrick. then she starts to get it quickly and becomes expert quite quickly. All jedi had an affinity, Anakin for machines and racing, He was the only human pod race pilot. Obi wan had an affinity for living things, he always rode animals where possible, didn't like flying. Reys unique force ability is her ability to learn quickly. The fight initially (like the first 80%) is Ren kicking her to the curb and her in an uncontrolled retreat, she is fighting him here as Rey, someone who has melee skills already, not with the force. In her momentary epiphany where at the crisis point she reaches into the force. There is undoubtably a dark side flutter of temptation but that isn't all of it. Her meditate moment was also reminiscent of qui gon and obi wan in phantom menace. obi wan dips into the force to find a way out and the force shows him and grants him the strength. She also finds that by reaching out to the force she can use it in the fight, so it's reflective of both luke vs vader but also obi wan vs maul and luke vs deathstar. "You will know when you are calm, at peace" Secondly Rey is insanely powerful, it's not mary sue level power it's understandable level but she is cracking boulders while doing something else with the force and not even realising. Ren is also insanely powerful but he weakened himself by killing Han, how so? Ren was the one drifting between light and dark, he was on the tipping point, until he sealed his destiny he had access to both light and dark because essentially he's kind of a split personality as well. When he had his helmet on it is his mask to hide his shortcomings, he is a dark master with it on due to his confidence increase. Unmasked he was Ben, insecure, desperate to live up to his image of vader but still torn between the two. This is not the balance but thats another comment. When he killed Han he halved his force power because he only had access to the dark and was not fully trained in the dark, he had been forever sealed off from the light. This is why he destroys his mask in last jedi, he's done with that persona, he's jumping in the deep end of the dark side and thats focusing his mind like it focussed anakins obsessions. That fight was just Rey being Rey, the movie establishes she's a skilled fighter, the movie and books show Kylo being weakened, the trailer confirms both are equally insanely powerful. I'm sure last jedi will iron this particular element out.
In answer to the Balance thing that has people thinking grey jedi are a thing or that there is a 'balance' between light and dark. The Balance is more complicated. The balance is essentially the living force, the force connects all living things both moral and immoral, each being leaves their natural taint on the force, that is technically just "the force" which can be substituted for nature or the manifest destiny of the galaxy without the input of wizards and dark wizards. This is the realisation behind Lukes "Jedi must end" comment, he tried doing what yoda said and raising a new generation of Jedi and they were exterminated. Luke's simply come to the conclusion that the force doesn't want any jedi order, that similar to a predator/prey relationship the advancement of one side leads to an inevitable rise in the other. Nature provides more foxes to deal with prey plagues, similarly where the light gathers strength the force will try to balance and create these avatars of destruction like vader and ren. Luke has not found a way to use 'both' sides of the force, light and dark is diometrically opposed, there is no common ground. You can't kill younglings on a monday and make up for it with charity work on the weekend. The grey concept has been completely debunked by story group. This is the reason Palpatine needed a war, not just to isolate and seperate jedi so they could be killed, but the net effect of the human misery of the war is what unbalanced the 'balance' putting the dark side to it's zenith and turning sideous into a sith god. It's also why the empire was so oppressive after winning the war, the effect on the balance from suffering fueled the dark side. I think the 'greater good" motif will be all over this one, what can they justify to achieve their goals. Luke is dissing a new order but he still trains Rey, so a single apprentice is not going against the previous statement but we now see the power of the force not divided amongst many but focussed through two champions of the balance.
A: Lets dispel with Rey beat Kylo easily, if you actually watch the film you will see a consistency with Rey, everything she tries, she fails at the first time.
ReplyDeletePiloting the falcon, nosedived it, took out a gate taking off(the easiest part of flying) Handling a blaster, letting the rathtars out, mindtrick.
then she starts to get it quickly and becomes expert quite quickly. All jedi had an affinity, Anakin for machines and racing, He was the only human pod race pilot. Obi wan had an affinity for living things, he always rode animals where possible, didn't like flying. Reys unique force ability is her ability to learn quickly.
The fight initially (like the first 80%) is Ren kicking her to the curb and her in an uncontrolled retreat, she is fighting him here as Rey, someone who has melee skills already, not with the force. In her momentary epiphany where at the crisis point she reaches into the force. There is undoubtably a dark side flutter of temptation but that isn't all of it. Her meditate moment was also reminiscent of qui gon and obi wan in phantom menace. obi wan dips into the force to find a way out and the force shows him and grants him the strength. She also finds that by reaching out to the force she can use it in the fight, so it's reflective of both luke vs vader but also obi wan vs maul and luke vs deathstar. "You will know when you are calm, at peace"
Secondly Rey is insanely powerful, it's not mary sue level power it's understandable level but she is cracking boulders while doing something else with the force and not even realising. Ren is also insanely powerful but he weakened himself by killing Han, how so? Ren was the one drifting between light and dark, he was on the tipping point, until he sealed his destiny he had access to both light and dark because essentially he's kind of a split personality as well. When he had his helmet on it is his mask to hide his shortcomings, he is a dark master with it on due to his confidence increase.
Unmasked he was Ben, insecure, desperate to live up to his image of vader but still torn between the two. This is not the balance but thats another comment. When he killed Han he halved his force power because he only had access to the dark and was not fully trained in the dark, he had been forever sealed off from the light. This is why he destroys his mask in last jedi, he's done with that persona, he's jumping in the deep end of the dark side and thats focusing his mind like it focussed anakins obsessions.
That fight was just Rey being Rey, the movie establishes she's a skilled fighter, the movie and books show Kylo being weakened, the trailer confirms both are equally insanely powerful. I'm sure last jedi will iron this particular element out.
In answer to the Balance thing that has people thinking grey jedi are a thing or that there is a 'balance' between light and dark. The Balance is more complicated. The balance is essentially the living force, the force connects all living things both moral and immoral, each being leaves their natural taint on the force, that is technically just "the force" which can be substituted for nature or the manifest destiny of the galaxy without the input of wizards and dark wizards.
ReplyDeleteThis is the realisation behind Lukes "Jedi must end" comment, he tried doing what yoda said and raising a new generation of Jedi and they were exterminated. Luke's simply come to the conclusion that the force doesn't want any jedi order, that similar to a predator/prey relationship the advancement of one side leads to an inevitable rise in the other. Nature provides more foxes to deal with prey plagues, similarly where the light gathers strength the force will try to balance and create these avatars of destruction like vader and ren.
Luke has not found a way to use 'both' sides of the force, light and dark is diometrically opposed, there is no common ground. You can't kill younglings on a monday and make up for it with charity work on the weekend. The grey concept has been completely debunked by story group.
This is the reason Palpatine needed a war, not just to isolate and seperate jedi so they could be killed, but the net effect of the human misery of the war is what unbalanced the 'balance' putting the dark side to it's zenith and turning sideous into a sith god. It's also why the empire was so oppressive after winning the war, the effect on the balance from suffering fueled the dark side.
I think the 'greater good" motif will be all over this one, what can they justify to achieve their goals. Luke is dissing a new order but he still trains Rey, so a single apprentice is not going against the previous statement but we now see the power of the force not divided amongst many but focussed through two champions of the balance.